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Piccolo and Base Saiyans
Topic Started: Jul 9 2013, 04:51 PM (6,970 Views)
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I Yoeri

Okay, all statements aside.

It is believed that Base Kids are around the same power as Android 18, stronger or weaker.

Goten is stated to be not too far away from Gohan.

Now, the question becomes... How much stronger is Goku and Vegeta than Gohan?

Because, I believe Piccolo is at least twice as strong as Android 18. In fact, I believe Piccolo is far stronger than Semi-Perfect Cell.

Would you guys rank Gohan stronger than Piccolo? If so, there is no doubt Goku and Vegeta are stronger.


Anyway... Discuss!
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I don't see any of the base Saiyans being stronger than Piccolo simply because of his performance in the Cell Games. It lead me to believe he should at least be as strong as 40% SSJ Cell Games Goku, and no Base Saiyan surpasses this level of power. Piccolo could mop the floor with Semi Cell, who would also destroy the Base Saiyans.
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Same thing I said on another topic.
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8781502&t=8422588
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Jul 9 2013, 04:58 PM
Same thing I said on another topic.
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8781502&t=8422588
His performance in CG and the fact that Base Saiyans doesn't seem to be that much stronger in Boo Arc contradict those statements.

I'm not going to get into Dabra and Babidi's statement, because that's utter bulls***. The only real statement I can believe is that of Piccolo himself, when he says Kaioshin is in a different "dimension", which can be interpreted in two ways. You choose.
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Super Saiyans > Piccolo > Base Saiyans.

Use the logic...
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Jul 9 2013, 05:03 PM
Super Saiyans > Piccolo > Base Saiyans.

Use the logic...
Even though I agree, please elaborate further.
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Jul 9 2013, 05:01 PM
Cenet
Jul 9 2013, 04:58 PM
Same thing I said on another topic.
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8781502&t=8422588
His performance in CG and the fact that Base Saiyans doesn't seem to be that much stronger in Boo Arc contradict those statements.

I explained those things you just mentioned.

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Lord Magus
Jul 9 2013, 05:06 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 9 2013, 05:03 PM
Super Saiyans > Piccolo > Base Saiyans.

Use the logic...
Even though I agree, please elaborate further.
Ok then:

Super Saiyans > Piccolo > Frieza > Base Saiyans.
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I can't remember Gohan saying he expected to win. You need to come up with proof for this.

It is stated several times that Gohan got rusty, and this isn't contradicted. If Piccolo > Base Saiyans at CG, this continues at Boo arc, at least for Gohan.


@Super Vegetto Just for the heck of it.. How do you explain Kaioshin's surprise at Vegeta completely destroying Pui-Pui? Kaioshin is several times stronger than Freeza, and Base Vegeta just so happens to destroy Pui-Pui, which Kaioshin ranks higher than Freeza?

You got to remember that there is 18 years between the end of DB end BoG.
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Gohan didn't expect to win. He expected to place in the top three so he could get money.
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Gohan invites Piccolo to the tournament. Gohan is aware that Goku/Vegeta will be participating by this point.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-427-page-10.html


Gohan expects to win the tournament.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-430-page-12.html


Gohan wants to fight the tournament in Base.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-431-page-5.html


Gohan mentions turning SSJ would be unfair
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-431-page-6.html


I explain the things you mentioned on the last paragraph also. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8781502&t=8422588
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404 error for all of those images.
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Jul 9 2013, 05:22 PM
Gohan invites Piccolo to the tournament. Gohan is aware that Goku/Vegeta will be participating by this point.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-427-page-10.html


Gohan expects to win the tournament.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-430-page-12.html


Gohan wants to fight the tournament in Base.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-431-page-5.html


Gohan mentions turning SSJ would be unfair
http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-431-page-6.html


I explain the things you mentioned on the last paragraph also. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8781502&t=8422588
I can't see any of the external links.

And did you actually link me to the same post THREE times? THREE TIMES? Really?
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Jul 9 2013, 05:11 PM
I can't remember Gohan saying he expected to win. You need to come up with proof for this.

It is stated several times that Gohan got rusty, and this isn't contradicted. If Piccolo > Base Saiyans at CG, this continues at Boo arc, at least for Gohan.


@Super Vegetto Just for the heck of it.. How do you explain Kaioshin's surprise at Vegeta completely destroying Pui-Pui? Kaioshin is several times stronger than Freeza, and Base Vegeta just so happens to destroy Pui-Pui, which Kaioshin ranks higher than Freeza?

You got to remember that there is 18 years between the end of DB end BoG.
Kaioshin is suprised in Vegeta's power incrise, probably because he never belived Vegeta is strong until he destroyed Pui Pui in instant.

Kaioshin never ranked Pui Pui above Frieza.

Yes i remember and it still doesn't change my opinion...
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Because you seem to ignore things that I already explained. So it is either links or the same long posts on one topic.
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